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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 8, 2012 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

This was forwarded to me by one of those really smart types, so I'll take the stats on trust (oh boy, all those round numbers). I forgot to post this in late December.

Here are some statistics for the Year 1911:

The average life expectancy for men was 47 years.

Fuel for a 1911 Model-T was sold in drug stores only.

Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.

Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.

There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles of paved roads.

The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph..

The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower.

The average US wage in 1910 was 22 cents per hour.

The average US worker made between $200 and $400 per year.

A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year.
A dentist $2,500 per year.
A veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year.
A mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.

More than 95 percent of all births took place at home.

Ninety percent of all Doctors had no college education.
Instead, they attended so-called medical schools, many of which were condemned in the press and the government as substandard. (Body snatchers and barbers. "You look like you need a good bleeding.")

Sugar cost four cents a pound.
Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.
Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.

Most women only washed their hair once a month,
and used Borax or egg yolks for shampoo.

The five leading causes of death were:
1. Pneumonia and influenza
2. Tuberculosis
3. Diarrhea
4. Heart disease
5. Stroke

Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented yet.

Two out of every 10 adults couldn't read or write and only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school.

Marijuana, heroin, and morphine were all available over the counter at the local corner drugstores (along w/ the gasoline that you could huff and/or put in your Model-T)

Ads in pharmacies read, "Heroin clears the complexion, gives buoyancy to the mind, regulates the stomach and bowels, and is, in fact, a perfect guardian of health!"

There were about(?) 230 reported murders in the entire U.S.A..

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Poster: ahso Date: Jan 9, 2012 8:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

> So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

This certainly explains why you married pugsley enabling you access to her families money providing you a exorbitant amount of time every day portraying your bad self as some type of internet intellectual. Do you ever spend anytime with the kids or just wiping off the keyboard all day?

Mitt romney, the tea party, fox news, christian science monitor and the military channel are not the substance of this communities collective consciousness, asshole.

Hopefully your kids wont grow up to be hanger-ons like their kewl dad.

> Micah go fuck yourself forever

http://www.archive.org/post/345381/and-the-winners-are-83-and-late-70s-forum-tally

http://www.archive.org/post/383651/for-splue

Pathetic!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 9, 2012 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

:-)

How is the antiques biz doing?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

http://www.archive.org/post/407673/stories-about-taping-in-the-60s-and-70s

Re: [micah6vs8 says to me yesterday] "I'm sorry that you feel this way. I guess most of us here then constitute a forum of trolls."
YOU ARE CORRECT!! (I firmly believe 'you knew' you were correct!) And you aren't interested in doing anything about it. Maybe you should flag some more of my items. That might make you feel better?

Why do you encourage the Trolls? Is it worth it? What you discussed yesterday with me was defending and advocating for Trolls. NO Thanks!

I see Troll(s) loved you for that. Thank You for nothing! Enjoy yourself here with your Troll friends. I, and many others here, have had much, much worse Troll attacks. Many, many times. Would you like me to place this Thread of yours onto the Home Page of the New Taper's Compendium for you and The Trolls?
You make your own bed, and then you lay in it.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Monte, please. Take a moment. I am not giving you grief or flagging your items. I asked a question of you about how the would the Compendium would work on IA. If it is relevant question, use it. If it's not, don't. I'm not sure perservating on a simple question gets the Compendium closer to completion. If you have a beef with the forum in general, begin a thread. Or maybe take a break.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Seriously, you still don't get it.

Speaking for myself, I have been taking a break from here for more than three years, since the first time I was attacked by Trolls here! I've just been generating Pure b.s. chatter here since then. You're Trolls! You're censoring me! If I say anything from the heart, I'll get attacked very severely! It happens to everyone here. It's censorship by Trolls! Can't you understand that?

We are all refusing to speak about any Taper's Compendium here. There's been no increase, and no resolution to the discussion regarding myself, Charlie Miller, Rob Berger, Jerry Moore's brother, Menke, Gadsden, Wise, Wagner, Ghostofpig, Chappell, Sir Mick, Hunter Seamons, LiA, and every one else you can name.

When you are advocating for, defending, and encouraging Trolls to be able to attack us with impunity here, you are censoring us! When we get attacked, we shut up. That's Pure Censorship!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 10, 2012 5:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

I like you Monte, and I am sorry you are upset. I still don't quite get what you are referring to and I have a feeling instead of focusing on one handle, maybe a general thread by you on this topic would prove to be more valuable. So, maybe it's best for us leave it here, and see things with new eyes further on down the road. Peace to you Monte and good luck with the Compendium.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 8:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Seriously, we are all very upset about Trolls, except for you. (I apologize to everyone whose names I mentioned above, I shouldn't have done that.)

Every thread here, every Forum here, every Item here - in any and ALL Collections here, are subject to TROLLS. Get Real! I'm not starting anything, anywhere, with Trolls on here, or with you. Trolls started it. I'm not down with that. You're Trolls.

You make your own bed, and then you lay in it. That's me speaking as a Troll to you. Good bye.
p.s.: If you and others would like to get real, and advocate for us Tapers - to The Archive, we'd undoubtedly be happy to jump in with you and some of them at that point.

I have a new Taper's profile that was sent to me during our Taper's Compendium discussion. He's an old vintage Taper similar to myself. His profile was pretty interesting, being several essays long, including some interesting photos. He wants it Published in Taper's Compendium and given the light of day. But, we're not Publishing anything here on The Archive while we have a 100 per-cent Troll problem. Repeating myself is silly.

Dick Latvala passed away 12½ years ago; Ramrod passed away 5½ yrs ago; Jerry Moore passed away 2½ yrs ago; Owsley "The Bear" Stanley passed away nearly a year ago; and sooner, rather than later, more older Tapers will be gone forever. We're Retired! No Trolls! It's up to you Patrons. We're getting dosed now. Peace. We were never here! The Taper's Compendium is becoming an Obituary.

p.p.s.: "advocate for us Tapers - to The Archive." This is the only New Thread or Discussion I'm interested in having with you, regarding your idea about me starting a new thread somewhere for you.

You Go For It! Since it's your idea, why don't you start a new thread here about Trolls, the new online Taper's Compendium crashing and burning, and Academics being censored on The Archive? This door is left open for you and others. This is the matter at hand.
It's time I said something, I said it, and I can leave it at that.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 10, 2012 7:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Monte, I have seen you write passionately, with conviction, and with a good intent. I have never seen you write with an intention possessed of a mean nature.

>Seriously, we are all very upset about Trolls, except for you.

I don't know what is going on in your life, but take this angst elsewhere please. You are beginning to write like that which you despise.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

I spent years here getting humiliated by Trolls. It's over. I despise Trolls. Everyone does. We had our chance to do a Taper's Compendium here with you, but we've been censored.

I put it ALL on the line these past few days. I told the Tapers, "This is our moment, and I'm going to Advocate for us!" I've done that now. I'm getting dosed.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 10, 2012 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

please send me some DMT - lol

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Thnx for being my friend, here and FB.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 10, 2012 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

"Mitt romney, the tea party, fox news, christian science monitor and the military channel are not the substance of this communities collective consciousness, asshole.

Hopefully your kids wont grow up to be hanger-ons like their kewl dad.

> Micah go fuck yourself forever"

hey ahso, u go fuck your intolerant self.



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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Jan 10, 2012 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Oh so I am seeing it now according to asho, if you don't agree with the left-wing community and you have other opinions (which is what this country was founded on free-speech no matter what) then is that being a troll? Monte I like many of the stories that you tell and how you post about taping and the equipment and your knowledge of the dead but if a troll is someone who disagrees with you then that is not a troll. I am not antogonizing you, I am trying to follow this post and get a definition of what a troll is, while disagreeing with someone is not a troll in my definition. Just trying to clear this up and figure out what you define as a troll

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Noise Collector is the worst Troll
http://www.archive.org/post/404170/your-tea-party-propaganda-one-percent-mantra

RBNW....new and improved! is the most mindless Troll
http://www.archive.org/post/240947/alembic-history

Robthewordsmith is the biggest problem here
http://www.archive.org/details/TrollBoyWannaBe

Kochman is the funniest Troll. He spammed all of us here once we joined LSP. I actually like Koch in some of his personnas. If it's true that he sandbagged Clff and stalked him in real life, that's the worst kind of Troll. That's criminal behavior, and he should be prosecuted for that. NC has threatened me here about my photo recently. He's the scariest person on here - By Far. I'm putting all of you, and The Archive on notice about him and all the Trolls here. I have several attorneys looking into this.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Who will be the judge and jury in these troll trials?

Trying to identify, fix or eradicate trolls is a MASSIVE waste of time.

I simply ignore posts by people "I" deem to be trollish. It's REALLY EASY. When a troll responds to a post I write, I pay no mind. I understand their game and the fact remains...it takes two to tango. Trolls are neutered by way of the silent treatment.

Forumites who hate trolls and get their panties in a wad regarding troll posts are the same group that keep the trolls coming back for more. They thrive on YOUR ATTENTION. I am amazed by the density of those who don't understand this concept.

If you can't take a joke or criticism or bullying you have 2 options. Ignore or stay out of the forum completely.

Many wish there was an option 3....eradicate trolls. This will never happen. The sooner you learn to live with that fact, the sooner you can get on with more important matters in your life and in this forum.

Monte the bottom-line is: if you let the trolls discourage you from making a compendium of taping history, you are letting them win. Don't be a loser. You're better than that...you're tougher than that....right?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

It's not up to me who wins. It's up to you. I'm being censored. Why? How come?

When I've been attacked, I did exactly what you said "ignore or stay out." I am doing both. Trolls Win. You are correct. It's called censorship. Plain. Simple. Fact. The Tapers agree with me by consent. They never come here.

Many people here are harassing me. Noise Collector is stalking me all over The Archive. In my perception, he's threatening me. I already called the cops on him.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 10, 2012 2:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

NC maybe ought to be taken to task for using Cap Lock, but not calling law enforcement. I read no threat, just political speech w/ some name calling as seasoning. Calling the police over such a matter takes time away from their needed duties and tears at the fabric of the forum.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Monte, I'm not a cop or a person of influence at archive.org. The people who operate this website seem not to care much about troll activity. I assume that they have faced the sad reality that if you host a public website the trolls will come. AFAIK, there is no person who has been assigned the duty of toll-fighting. I'm not sure there is a way to combat what these trolls do on sites like this one.

Rather than pointing the finger at up-standing members of the forum who seem to get along just fine in spite of trolls, may I suggest you create your own blog or website and post your information in a safe haven. That way, you can control who sees your stuff and boot anybody you decide is riff-raff.

Everything you do here is like sculpture in a public park. Many people will walk past and see your art. Most passers-by simply take-in the sight and silently form an opinion. Some will stand-by and comment on how much they like or hate your sculpture. Regardless of how cool your sculpture is, eventually some doofus with a spray-can will come along and deface your art.

I'm not sure what to do about taggers or trolls. Any REAL suggestions as to how to handle such scum would be welcome. But I don't hear solutions, I hear whining.



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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Compendium Panel - my Picks:

Rab Robthewordsmith: Author, Admin
Blue Devil: Assignment Editor, Admin
LightintoAshes: Chief investigative correspondent, Admin
Charlie Miller: Taper-in-Chief of bringing Tapers to the Table, Admin
Cliff: VP in Charge of Notebooks, Admin
Kochman: Storyteller in Charge, Admin
Skobud and Rastamon: Chiefs of Security, Admins
High Flow: Executive in Charge of Conflict Resolution, Admin
Ghostofpig: Executive Director, Admin
Arbuthnot: Communications Director, Admin
He Live's: Featured Essayist, Admin
Hunter Seamons: Tapers and Matrixing, Admin
William Tell: The Archive's GD Ambassador, Admin
Althea Rose: PR Director, President, CEO, Admin in Charge

me: executive producer, compendium librarian, tech support, Admin

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Well fol-de-rol.

Looks like the psychochemical monkeys you've been messing around with all these years finally decided to take their reality bananas home.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Rab, remember when you offered to write my story for me? [in fact, that could have been the compendium, sort of. you were the first one to catch onto the notion of a compendium with me. you're very clever, and very smart!] That was several years ago on here, after you ripped my ass to shreds several times, and we had it out once.

Since then, you've nagged me for posting pics, nagged me for using different fonts, nagged me for using HTML, and nagged me for editing. I see you're back at it. You're the best Troll!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 10, 2012 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

"Monte there’s no question of anyone ‘letting you speak’ here. You say what you want, buddy, you don’t need an invitation. Just be ready to take the brickbats along with the bouquets."

That was me to you - 17 January 2008. It's still solid advice.

March 2010, I believe, was the only time I took issue with you about the amount of coding in your posts. If you take the time to look at the thread you'll see we ended up parting on good terms.

http://www.archive.org/post/299615/custom-colors-non-dead

So good in fact, that yes, a few months later I did offer to help you tell your story.

http://www.archive.org/post/314379/tapers-tales

And lately, I even IDed Rosie McGee for you.


So, where's all this fantasy nagging taking place? Truth is, generally I just ignore you. On balance I think that's good policy.

Oh yeah and it's Rob - not Rab. Thank you.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 11, 2012 3:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Rob, we agree what you've said about posting. I'm not attacking you. I apologize for mentioning your name in this thread, if I've annoyed you in doing so. I'm sorry.

How do we do a Taper's Compendium? Is there any way possible? I thought this conversation was worth a try. In the future, no one can say it was not discussed. We can try doing it. People here can work together if they decide to do it. Or, we can bag it here. If we go for doing it here, we need a list of people who want to work on it. The roster will include who does what.

The discussion point here is: You cannot mix Academics and Trolls. I wish you well, especially when you're behaving yourself. Thanks for speaking up.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jan 14, 2012 9:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mea culpa

@Rob -"Oh yeah and it's Rob - not Rab. Thank you. "

Sorry Rob, that's probably my fault (but Rab is your alter ego).

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